Podcast / See How They Run / Nov 9, 2024

Where Do We Go From Here?

On the last edition of See How They Run, John Nichols and Jeet Heer examine the wreckage of Election 2024 and talk about the way forward.

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Where Do We Go From Here? | See How They Run
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On this final episode of The Nation's election coverage podcast, See How They Run, D.D. Guttenplan is joined by John Nichols and Jeet Heer to discuss lessons learned from the 2024 Presidential races.

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US Vice President Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris and US Second Gentleman Douglas Emhoff walk off stage after giving a concession speech at Howard University in Washington, DC, on November 6, 2024.

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We’d hoped to bring you a very different episode today. But with Donald Trump returning to the White House, we’re all confronting a grim few years. So, for the last edition of See How They Run, D.D. Guttenplan, John Nichols, and Jeet Heer got together to discuss why Trump won, how the Democrats lost so catastrophically, and how we keep going from here.

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D.D. Guttenplan

D.D. Guttenplan is a special correspondent for The Nation and the former host of The Nation Podcast. He served as editor of the magazine from 2019 to 2025 and, prior to that, as an editor at large and London correspondent. His books include American Radical: The Life and Times of I.F. Stone, The Nation: A Biography, and The Next Republic: The Rise of a New Radical Majority.

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